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[Talia al Ghul]

Basic Information

Player Nickname: Lily.

Profile URL: Kory, Diplopia, or Talia.

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Model / Actor's name: "Mila Kunis."


Name: Talia does not reveal her true identity and is only known as Talia.
Alter Ego: Talia Al Ghul.
Aliases: Miranda Tate, Talia Head, Daughter of the Demon, Talia Demon.
Age: 4-38.
Birthday: December 23.
Alignment: Neutral-good.

Height: 5'8".
Weight: 141 lbs.
Hair: Brown.
Eyes: Brunette-ginger.
Physique: Athlethic and well built. Talia has a body that men lust after and women envy and she works out to keep it that way. She has longevity from the pits.


Training: As an assassin, she is skilled in Boli Khela, Ninjitsu, Tàijíquán, Karate, Jujitsu, Judo, Aikido, Hankido, Hapkido, Kumido, Taekwondo, Muay Lao, Kyudo, and many more. She is a proficient swordswoman.

Equipment: Talia's preferred weapon choice that she trusts as an assassin is a katana. She is capable of wielding other weapons that she trusts as much as the katana as well, such as a few sniper rifles, both with and without a silencer (use varies based on the situation that requires her to use such a sniper rifle). If the situation requires self defense, she prefers the Arabian Scimitar or a dagger. The perfect weapon for her, in terms of a gun, is the .45 ACP.


Description

Appearance: Talia can usually be seen in a white, silky and formal dress or a black, skin-tight leather suit. It points out all of her curves and makes it easy for her to move around in when she is engaged in combat.

Personality: Besides being an assassin, she's an eco-terrorist, or at least labeled like such due to being an Environmentalist and Humanitarian. Those two points are what drives Talia more towards Batman and more away from Ra's. Batman makes her see and realize that there is a way to be both without having to kill thousands of innocent people like her father does so she sees Batman like her father, minus the killing. This makes her start leaning more towards neutral good than neutral chaotic and is also what makes her partner with Batman to go about the proper way of being an Environmentalist and Humanitarian.

A major factor of her personality is the sparked call sign between Batman and Talia that makes them recognize each other as 'beloved' which she often calls him, rather than Batman or Bruce. The reason for that is that until meeting Batman, Talia never found any man worthy of her due to her Father's reinforcing the 'No man is worthy of you unless I say he is' rule he seems to enforce all the time with Talia.

Significant relationships

(Husband, Wife, Girlfriend, Boyfriend, Father, Mother, Nemesis, Mentor, Partner, etc)

(Ra's al Ghul) - (father.) -- Ra's focused on Talia and Nyssa more than on Dusan wanting to someday mke one of them take over for him. He showed more favoritsm towards Talia and even blurred the lines of incest and obsession with her due to her striking resemblence to Melisande, but of course his obsession with her was never something she was aware of. She knew that according to Ra's, no man would be worthy of her love until he approved of him. Prior to meeting Batman, Talia agreed with Ra's on the necessaty of killing millions of innocent people to make the world a better place; but, after meeting Batman, he shows her that there are other ways of achieving that goal--ways that did not involve taking lives. Batman also shows Talia that Ra's has been micro-managing her life and she's grown tired of that, resulting in her breaking away from him. Of course, breaking away from her father put a strain on Talia's relatioship with Ra's.

(Melisande al Ghul) - (mother, deceased.) -- As a child, Melisande appeared to Talia and told her of the lies Ra's had been feeding her about her mother's death. She was under the new identity of a fortune teller and confused Talia but according to what she said, Melisande didn't die during childbirth and she knew how it felt to carry her in her womb all this time. This has only given her a small, vague glimpse of what her mother is like and despite not knowing more, she wishes to eventually.

(Nyssa Raatko) - (half-sister.) -- Mutual hateship. Nyssa had kidnapped Talia at one point and even had a hand in her longevity from the Lazarus Pits by killing her through them countless times and bringing her back, making Talia loose her mind over and over, so this has put a tragic strain on their relationship has sisters. It's more likely that the two would die fighting than ever make up.

(Damian Wayne) - (son.) -- Talia wanted to make sure that Damian grew up as someone that is though. She wanted to spend time with him and to personally oversee his training. She doesn't shy away from him being her Beloved's son which is why she named him Damian Wayne and not Damian Al Ghul. It's so that nobody forgets who Damian is--not him, not her, not her Beloved. Still, Talia takes him to teach him about his grandfather, Ra's al Ghul. She is aware that it will never happen; but, Talia does have a fantasy that someday, her Beloved, Talia and Damian will rule the world someday.

(Sensei) - (grandfather.) -- He is her grandfather, but most of all, he is her instructor and master in all things Martial Arts. He is well versed on the subject and the two hold a mutual respect for each other.

(Bruce Wayne) - (love interest/partner.) -- Talia recognizes Batman as the true individual behind Bruce Wayne and that Bruce Wayne is the mask behind Batman, not the other way around. She is one of the only two women, besides Selina, that he truly, really loves and she recognizes that. Talia interacts with Bruce Wayne, and acknowledges him but the real man she's in love with and recognizes as her Beloved is Batman and he's always been the one that she's shown sexual or any type of alluring advances towards. She has a son with Batman whom she keeps secret from her Beloved until their son comes of age.

(Jason Todd) - (student.) -- She is mostly known for mothering Jason being that he is her student but in a moment of heated passion and bonding over a hard past that has turned both of them emotionally hard, she sleeps with him, proving that despite mothering him at times, she cares and understands him and he, in return, shows that he understands that they both grew up with problematic relationships to their fathers, Jason to both of them, and they both know what it feels to be betrayed and used. This makes them have a strong bond of mutual respect, care and protectiveness of each other.

(Selina Kyle) - (rival.) -- Talia is aware of Selina and Batman's love, and their relationship and she acknowledges it but it doesn't mean that she's fond of it. Still, Talia would never go after Selina to attack, harm or try to kill her because of Batman. That is something that the two have agreed on-- a hand off policy between each other. Talia knows that if she tries to kill Catwoman and fails, Catwoman would retaliate ten fold. This is a huge reason of their hand-off policy to each other. They have mutual respect between each other bust if Catwoman ever wanted to mess with the League of Assassins and steal a jewel from them, Talia would find an 'extra' incentive to go after her. Until that day comes, Talia recognizes Selina as the only real 'threat' and 'rival for Batman's heart' but the two have agreed to keep their hands off of each other. The two even worked together in the City of Gotham Sirens.

(Bane) - (enemy.) -- Talia believed at one point, because of her father's approval of Bane, that Bane was worthy of her love but as she began romancing him, she saw how brutish Bane truly was. Bane saw Talia as an object of power and possession--as a trophy. She views him as pretty much a monster. -- One's obsessed with the other and the other wants nothing to do with them. That's how I view Bane and Talia when I think of them.

Audition post

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"I am your mother, child, and I did not die during childbirth. Don't listen to Ra's. He's lying to you. Don't let him reject you--act helpless..." What was that supposed to mean? As confusion consumed me, I stared at the woman, wide eyed, trying to find a way not to believe her yet something deep down told me it was okay to. It was as if my heart was telling me that there is no way this woman could lie to me; yet... Why did I find it so hard to trust her? "Just what are you talking about, Lady?! I couldn't help but blurt that out, debating if I wanted to stay and listen to her, or brand her as a lunatic and run away. I chose the first option and stayed, listening to her go on about how Ra's was a horrible person and how I should not trust him. I was but a child then which made it that much harder for me to hear this. "Just listen to me, child. I am your mother. This is the new me; a fortune teller but it is me and you can trust me. I carried you in my womb for nine months and all nine of them were filled with love that I developed for you more and more as the time for your birth neared. But the lie that your father has fed you of me dying during childbirth is just that; a lie." She was making it harder for me not to trust her. I really couldn't bring myself to pull away from the story and kept probing for more. "How do I know you're telling the truth? I just met you."

But the answer to that question was ignored and it was then that I realized that this wasn't real. None of it was. No, it was a dream that I was tossing and turning in my bed from. Because of that dream, I was groaning out the word mother every now and then. When I realized that, my body jerked up to sit, my eyes opened wide and I almost gasped for air but I regained my composure quickly, calming myself before causing any unnecessary scenes that would worry my loyal minions. Instead of doing that, I stood up, stepped away from the comfort of my bed, washed my face from that sleepy expression so that I could make myself presentable enough and headed down. In my opinion, time was better spent working out and training to keep my body as fit as it is, my mind clear and my energy up. That's exactly what I did too.

I headed to my frequently visited gym area of the place I called a home currently and quickly started doing sit ups. "One. Two. Three. Four. Five..." The numbers rolled off my tongue in that thick, exotic accent as I counted each thrust of my upper body forward, waiting until my back hit the floor and pushed down against it, flat, before speaking the next number. That was just how I chose to count my sit ups. It helped make sure that I kept a solid pace as I tended to test myself and push my body to its limits. It was the only way I saw to maintain a proper figure. When I reached the count of a hundred, I stopped and moved to push ups, doing a hundred of those, then I went on to running around the gym. Eventually, I stopepd with that warm up and moved on to a little hand-punching-bag-combat, swinging my left fist at the soft, hanging bag with enough force to knock it back a few centimeters and then my right one to stop it from hitting me in the face when it returned back. Then, I jumped, twisting in the air to land a kick to what I imagined to be the gut of my enemy with a disturbingly loud thud that followed as the force of the kick had me land on my ass.

I shouldn't have gone so far, I thought but I did. That still didn't mark the ending of my training. As someone that was Bruce's partner, I needed to make sure I was up to par with him so that when we fight an enemy, I won't let him down and by training, I was making sure of that so to give up now would only be foolish of me. I knew that which is why I stood right back up, dusted myself off and rose a slender, well toned, left leg straight up to stab my toes right into the punching back upon impact. When that was done, I delivered a punch followed by another kick but this time, the kick I landed was from my right leg to switch some things around. When that kick had safely landed, I moved to twist on my heel, bent my arm up and pushed it back so that my elbow woud jab right into what I imagined to be my enemy's side. Unfortunately, it was the punching bag so I turned quickly back around to catch it before it hits into me.

Fighting with a punching bag was hard. I had to constantly grab hold of it or catch it upon its swing back my way so that it doesn't crash into me and send me flying back. Of course, that has never happened and I refused to allow it to, but it's a possibility and I knew that. This was why I moved fast as I trained. It was also why a wave of pain quickly washed over my sides that I had to ignore. That pain was because I was pushing myself past the point of exhaustion but as a dedicated assassin, I was fully aware that had this fight taken place in a realistic world, with an actual foe instead of a punching bag, nobody would give a damn if my sides hurt and if I needed a break to catch my breath. If there was anything I learned from my father, it was that during combat, the one that needs a break is the easier to break, defeat and kill. That was why I never stopped to catch my breath, ignored that throbbing pain in my side and just continued on. Like a trooper.

At least until I deemed it necessary to call it quits and I soon did, washed myself off in the shower from all the prespiration I built up in the work out and decided to watch some television. It was my way of staying occupied while waiting for Bruce to contact me for any missions of saving the day. See, now that I was no longer doing my father's dirty bidding, I was working with the bat to bring my father down. Deep down, I hoped and wished that there was hope and salvation for my father but I didn't allow myself to have too high of hopes for that to happen. After all, the man shattered my image of him as a child by lying, created this problematic relationship with me and for me to have any hopes of him getting some type of conscience would be impossible. I knew that fully well yet I still wished a tiny bit that some part of him could realize the error of his horrible ways and do something to fix it.

Yeah, I know. As if.

As I sat on that couch, flipping through the channels to find the news or at least something entertaining to watch while my minions played maids and butlers and cleaned house around me, I thought and tried to imagine what a current life as Ra's daughter would be like. It was painful and brought tears to my eyes to fantasize such things and made me feel ashamed of myself for even considering doing so, but some part of me always wondered what I would turn out like had I still stayed loyal to him. I imagined myself as a cruel, evil woman, raised up by a respected and feared man to rule over this Earth one day. In my eyes, he was so horrible that he corrupted everything in his path so I imagined myself corrupting everything in my path. Like father, like daughter. It got so intense that I even broke concentration enough to bring myself out of this fantasy because even with how I was when I did some inhumane and horrible things for him in the past, it was hard to see someone of neutral good alignment be so...corrupt. So evil. It was hard for me to see myself like that. I felt as if I was letting myself down for even imagening it but the moment I felt a tear trickle down my cheek, I put all thoughts of that behind me and quickly wiped it away before anyone could see.

As a woman that wanted to gain respect in her own way, alongside Bruce Wayne, I had to keep appearances of some sort and I refused to allow any emotions surface enough to show through my hard shell and demeanor. I refused to allow anyone see me as weak because despite knowing that I can handle myself, I didn't want to risk the chance of someone using any weaknesses against me and crying--well, that was a weakness. So nope. It was unacceptable and so I stopped myself before exploring any further feelings and bringing more tears. Thankfully, I was good at doing this. At hiding my emotions. It was a trait I had practiced for so long that it almost came like second nature to me now-a-days.

[Batman (Bruce Wayne)]

Aug 6, 2015 18:46:59 GMT -5 Talia al Ghul said:

Basic Information

Player Nickname: Lily.

Profile URL: Kory, Diplopia, or Talia.

Do you want other role players to give you feed back?: Sure.

Model / Actor's name: "Mila Kunis."


Name: Talia does not reveal her true identity and is only known as Talia.
Alter Ego: Talia Al Ghul.
Age: She looks to be in her twenties.
Birthday: Not applicable.
Alignment: Neutral good, but mostly--she looks after herself.

Height: 5'8".
Weight: 141 lbs.
Hair: Brown.
Eyes: Brunette-ginger.
Physique: Athlethic and well built. Talia has a body that men lust after and women envy and she works out to keep it that way.


Training: Karate, basic gymnist moves, jujitsu, also; she is highly trained in both armed and unarmed combat and has longevity from the Lazarus Pits.

Equipment: Any type of knife, sword or gun.

1. With a woman of her age she should have more training under her belt than simple karate and Jujitsu. She is a master of Ninjitsu (The art of attacking within the shadows) as her profession is assassin) I would suggest looking up videos on youtube of different martial arts / combat styles and picking which ones you'd prefer her to have studied. I'd say 5 is modest for Talia. Keep in mind that Talia is a proficient Marksmen and especially gifted swordsmen capable of fencing add Bushido combat.

2. Bouncing off the previous point, assassins typically have weapons of choices; these are weapons they personally find trust and reliability in. Talia's weapon of choice for assassination is a Katana. For Self defense she prefers an Arabian Scimitar or a dagger. For ranged combat she prefers Sub machine guns like the MP-5, Uzi 9mm, UMP-5, MP-7. (They're compact weapons that also have low recoil, even for a child) for a full assault package she would use an M16A4 rifle or a G36c rifle due to both weapons being very accurate single shot weapons. For a sniper rifle she would likely use an M24 rifle with a silencer attached to it. A hunting crossbow may also be a good choice for a ranged weapon / assassination, but offer a significantly decreased maximum range.

Again, she's an assassin and through a career working as such you learn some weapons are good and some are bad depending on the situation. Some weapons operate well even when placed in water or with sand upon them while others jam or overheat. I'd also recommend Kunai as a short ranged throwing weapon but, shurikens are also an acceptable weapon for throwing.

3. The comment about the Lazarus pit belongs in her physique section, not her training section, even if you're trying to explain how she has trained in multiple arts.

4. Give her an age range and even a birthday. I want to say canonly her birth was somewhere in December.

5. Talia's known aliases were "Talia Head" and "Miranda Tate."

6. Neutral Good is perfect for when Talia is on the side of heroes. Chaotic Neutral is Talia when she's working for herself interests. Chaotic Evil is when Talia is antagonizing Batman.

Aug 6, 2015 18:46:59 GMT -5 Talia al Ghul said:

Description

Appearance: Talia can usually be seen in a white, silky and formal dress or a black, skin-tight leather suit. It points out all of her curves and makes it easy for her to move around in when she is engaged in combat.

Personality: Contrary to popular belief, Talia is emotionally hard and has a warm heart that she protects and covers up through sometimes being nasty. She is a protective person that belives her father is a horrible man that needs to be stopped and she will do any and everything in her power to protect those she cares for. Mainly Batman, her son and any friends and family that are mutually friendly with her and Batman both. Talia is more likely to look out for Batman, her son and herself, however, but it doesn't mean she won't defend anyone Batman or her son care for.

7. Talia 2nd to being an assassin is an eco-terrorist, however, she is labeled such because she is an Environmentalist and Humanitarian - These two points are what DRIVES her away from Ra's and towards Batman as Batman can achieve both without killing thousands of people, where as Ra's Al Ghul cannot.

8. Talia's arranged "marriage" to Bruce has sparked a call sign between Batman and Talia to recognize each other as "beloved" and she often refers to him as such instead of "Bruce" or "Batman." This is a major factor in her personality because until she met Batman, she never found or thought of any man "worthy" of her due to her Father's indoctrination and reinforcing that "No man is worthy of you unless I say he is." And it's by Ra's experience that one of the *few* men Ra's does see worthy of Talia, was a man she legitimately fell in love with without Ra's influence.

Aug 6, 2015 18:46:59 GMT -5 Talia al Ghul said:

Significant relationships

(Husband, Wife, Girlfriend, Boyfriend, Father, Mother, Nemesis, Mentor, Partner, etc)

(Ra's al Ghul) - (father.) -- Talia and Ra's have a strained relationship. She used to trust him and be loyal until she realized there was nothing healthy about someone making her do things, sometimes even morally wrong things, for his own benefit and left. Now, she's working with Bruce to try to make him see the error of his way, but mostly to bring him down.

(Melisande) - (mother, deceased.) -- As a child, Melisande appeared to Talia and told her of the lies Ra's had been feeding her about her mother's death. She was under the new identity of a fortune teller and confused Talia but according to what she said, Melisande didn't die during childbirth and she knew how it felt to carry her in her womb all this time. This has only given her a small, vague glimpse of what her mother is like and despite not knowing more, she wishes to eventually.

(Dusan al Ghul) - (brother.) -- Talia pities him and forms a bond with him where she tries to keep him occupied enough and distract him so he would not feel left out. When he leaves, she feels betrayed and starts to resent him, which she still does to this day.

(Nyssa Raatko) - (half-sister.) -- Mutual hateship. Nyssa had kidnapped Talia at one point and even had a hand in her longevity from the Lazarus Pits by killing her through them countless times and bringing her back, making Talia loose her mind over and over, so this has put a tragic strain on their relationship has sisters. It's more likely that the two would die fighting than ever make up.

(Damian Wayne) - (son.) -- He is her son and she even went as far as kidnapping him from his adoptive family to have him raised by the League of Assassins so she could keep a closer look on him. Now, she cares for him and acts as the mother she is supposed to be to him. Talia is fiercely protective over him and any other family, friend and ally that she has.

(Sensei) - (grandfather.) -- He is protective of her but tends to suspect her a lot which doesn't make it easy for the two to always get along.

(Bruce Wayne) - (love interest/partner.) -- Friend, foe (at one time but no more), partner, lover; Bruce has been many but she always remembers him as a love interest whom she cares deeply for. The feeling is mutual too since he loves her but the two are not together. They have a son together; but, Bruce is unaware of that. In other words, he is her love interest and partner and that relationship just seems to work.

(Jason Todd) - (student.) -- She is mostly known for mothering Jason being that he is her student but in a moment of heated passion and bonding over a hard past that has turned both of them emotionally hard, she sleeps with him, proving that despite mothering him at times, she cares and understands him and he, in return, shows that he understands that they both grew up with problematic relationships to their fathers, Jason to both of them, and they both know what it feels to be betrayed and used. This makes them have a strong bond of mutual respect, care and protectiveness of each other.

(Catwoman) - (rival.) -- Talia sees Catwoman as a rival. She's jealous of her relationship with Bruce at times and even has contemplated capturing her to wipe her memory of Bruce all away. Unfortunately, she never followed through with that plan.

(Bane) - (enemy.) -- He's an enemy that her father wanted her to marry. It is rumored that Bane forced himself on her from his obsession with her and upon Talia hearing of his supposed death, she was happy. Happy to learn the brute was dead. Was it true? She wasn't fully sure but for the moment, she felt a sense of relief.

9. Talia's relationship with Ra's is strained because of her humanitarian beliefs. She wants to help the world become a paradise and better place - she doesn't disagree with her father on that point. What she was persuaded by Batman to see was that Ra's idealism would kill millions of people; prior to meeting Batman she would agree that it was necessary. Batman showed her that you can change the world for better without killing anyone. She breaks away from her father because she grew tired of him trying to micro-manage her life. (Breaking away is different from straining, which is the point I'm making here.)

10. Dusan Al Ghul, being a son of Ra's, Ra's would not look for a suiter for Talia or Nyssa if he were actually still alive. Dusan being a male would be far superior to a woman leading the league of Assassins. It would probably be better if he was MIA and lost during a mission, never to be found. This would give opportunities to explore this character later in the RP.

11. Nyssa kidnapped Talia and brainwashed her into opposing and killing Ra's, when that plan failed Talia would separate from Nyssa with distrust and resentment, but also a bitter sense of appreciation that Nyssa "Opened her eyes." For RP purposes, I don't recommend keeping this canon to your character as this is what turned Talia Al Ghul into a villainess that wants to kill Batman. If / When we talk, Damian, Myself, and Dinah have an idea as to how we want to go about with Nyssa's relationship and Talia.

12. Talia did not kidnap Damian, this is not even remotely close to any origin for Damian Wayne. I would suggest you look up Damian and research more about him.

13. The Sensei would no doubt be her instructor and master with her training. He is one of the best Martial Artists in the DC Universe, mastering practically every known form of combat to Mankind. Respect would almost certainly be in their relationship, and since we really haven't done any RPs involving The Sensei, it's likely he is not an evil crime lord - rather just an old man who spends his immortality training and practicing martial arts every day.

14. I would expect more detail or elaboration here about Bruce and Talia...Even though I know you have limited comicbook knowledge. For example Talia's intimacy with Bruce is closer than anyone has ever achieved with Bruce Wayne / Batman. She also (Unlike 90% of Batman's other love interests) knows and recognizes Batman is the true individual and that Bruce Wayne is just a mask. For that she enjoys spending time with Bruce Wayne, but most of her sexual/intimate advances were towards Batman. I'll give you two videos to see regarding Batman and Talia's interactions. This is definitely something you will need to research more in-depth about Talia to fully understand her.

15. While this is a theory amongst fans as to why Talia and Jason slept together, I'm not sure our Jason Rper will be okay with this. Regardless your understanding of this is somewhat accurate. In my opinion, the real reason Talia slept with Jason was to manipulate him into replacing Bruce Wayne as Batman, so that Batman would return to her and take his place as Ra's Al Ghul.

16. There are a few moments of back and forth between Talia and Selina - Hush being one of the better examples, Talia recognizes that Selina is her only "real" threat to taking Bruce's heart. And from her observation and understanding of Bruce...His true loves have always only been Selina and Talia, and all other women would never truly accept Batman or understand him - and he knows this. Because of this rivalry for Batman's love, they both (depending on the timeline) have a mutually agreed hands-off policy towards each other. Talia could kill Selina, but if she failed, Selina would come back at Talia for revenge ten fold. So their agreement is essentially "May the best woman win by convincing Batman. And fighting is strictly professional and circumstance based." - So neither will hunt each other down, but if Catwoman wants to steal a jewel from the League of Assassins, Talia has an "extra" incentive for tracking Catwoman down and returning the gem; this back and forth that creates a scoreboard between the two as who can be "good" and worthy enough for Batman and his righteous crusade. So, even when faced with the opportunity to kill each other, the thought of Batman would most likely stop them from doing such. From Talia's perspective, if Talia were to die, Selina is the only person she would rather stay with Bruce because Bruce legitimately loves her almost as much as he loves Talia. Talia and Catwoman have worked together as a duo and have even worked together with the Gotham City Sirens.

17. Talia once thought of Bane as worthy when her Father stated such, she saw him as Batman but without a "No killing" policy. Upon working with him and romancing with him, she began to see that he was more brutish than he was kind and loving. Bane was more possessive of her because he didn't understand love, but he did understand power and having her as a mate was a symbol of "power" because only "worthy men" may marry the daughter of Ra's Al Ghul.

Aug 6, 2015 18:46:59 GMT -5 Talia al Ghul said:

Audition post

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"I am your mother, child, and I did not die during childbirth. Don't listen to Ra's. He's lying to you. Don't let him reject you--act helpless..." What was that supposed to mean? As confusion consumed me, I stared at the woman, wide eyed, trying to find a way not to believe her yet something deep down told me it was okay to. It was as if my heart was telling me that there is no way this woman could lie to me; yet... Why did I find it so hard to trust her? "Just what are you talking about, Lady?! I couldn't help but blurt that out, debating if I wanted to stay and listen to her, or brand her as a lunatic and run away. I chose the first option and stayed, listening to her go on about how Ra's was a horrible person and how I should not trust him. I was but a child then which made it that much harder for me to hear this. "Just listen to me, child. I am your mother. This is the new me; a fortune teller but it is me and you can trust me. I carried you in my womb for nine months and all nine of them were filled with love that I developed for you more and more as the time for your birth neared. But the lie that your father has fed you of me dying during childbirth is just that; a lie." She was making it harder for me not to trust her. I really couldn't bring myself to pull away from the story and kept probing for more. "How do I know you're telling the truth? I just met you."

But the answer to that question was ignored and it was then that I realized that this wasn't real. None of it was. No, it was a dream that I was tossing and turning in my bed from. Because of that dream, I was groaning out the word mother every now and then. When I realized that, my body jerked up to sit, my eyes opened wide and I almost gasped for air but I regained my composure quickly, calming myself before causing any unnecessary scenes that would worry my loyal minions. Instead of doing that, I stood up, stepped away from the comfort of my bed, washed my face from that sleepy expression so that I could make myself presentable enough and headed down. In my opinion, time was better spent working out and training to keep my body as fit as it is, my mind clear and my energy up. That's exactly what I did too.

I headed to my frequently visited gym area of the place I called a home currently and quickly started doing sit ups. "One. Two. Three. Four. Five..." The numbers rolled off my tongue in that thick, exotic accent as I counted each thrust of my upper body forward, waiting until my back hit the floor and pushed down against it, flat, before speaking the next number. That was just how I chose to count my sit ups. It helped make sure that I kept a solid pace as I tended to test myself and push my body to its limits. It was the only way I saw to maintain a proper figure. When I reached the count of a hundred, I stopped and moved to push ups, doing a hundred of those, then I went on to running around the gym. Eventually, I stopepd with that warm up and moved on to a little hand-punching-bag-combat, swinging my left fist at the soft, hanging bag with enough force to knock it back a few centimeters and then my right one to stop it from hitting me in the face when it returned back. Then, I jumped, twisting in the air to land a kick to what I imagined to be the gut of my enemy with a disturbingly loud thud that followed as the force of the kick had me land on my ass.

I shouldn't have gone so far, I thought but I did. That still didn't mark the ending of my training. As someone that was Bruce's partner, I needed to make sure I was up to par with him so that when we fight an enemy, I won't let him down and by training, I was making sure of that so to give up now would only be foolish of me. I knew that which is why I stood right back up, dusted myself off and rose a slender, well toned, left leg straight up to stab my toes right into the punching back upon impact. When that was done, I delivered a punch followed by another kick but this time, the kick I landed was from my right leg to switch some things around. When that kick had safely landed, I moved to twist on my heel, bent my arm up and pushed it back so that my elbow woud jab right into what I imagined to be my enemy's side. Unfortunately, it was the punching bag so I turned quickly back around to catch it before it hits into me.

Fighting with a punching bag was hard. I had to constantly grab hold of it or catch it upon its swing back my way so that it doesn't crash into me and send me flying back. Of course, that has never happened and I refused to allow it to, but it's a possibility and I knew that. This was why I moved fast as I trained. It was also why a wave of pain quickly washed over my sides that I had to ignore. That pain was because I was pushing myself past the point of exhaustion but as a dedicated assassin, I was fully aware that had this fight taken place in a realistic world, with an actual foe instead of a punching bag, nobody would give a damn if my sides hurt and if I needed a break to catch my breath. If there was anything I learned from my father, it was that during combat, the one that needs a break is the easier to break, defeat and kill. That was why I never stopped to catch my breath, ignored that throbbing pain in my side and just continued on. Like a trooper.

At least until I deemed it necessary to call it quits and I soon did, washed myself off in the shower from all the prespiration I built up in the work out and decided to watch some television. It was my way of staying occupied while waiting for Bruce to contact me for any missions of saving the day. See, now that I was no longer doing my father's dirty bidding, I was working with the bat to bring my father down. Deep down, I hoped and wished that there was hope and salvation for my father but I didn't allow myself to have too high of hopes for that to happen. After all, the man shattered my image of him as a child by lying, created this problematic relationship with me and for me to have any hopes of him getting some type of conscience would be impossible. I knew that fully well yet I still wished a tiny bit that some part of him could realize the error of his horrible ways and do something to fix it.

Yeah, I know. As if.

As I sat on that couch, flipping through the channels to find the news or at least something entertaining to watch while my minions played maids and butlers and cleaned house around me, I thought and tried to imagine what a current life as Ra's daughter would be like. It was painful and brought tears to my eyes to fantasize such things and made me feel ashamed of myself for even considering doing so, but some part of me always wondered what I would turn out like had I still stayed loyal to him. I imagined myself as a cruel, evil woman, raised up by a respected and feared man to rule over this Earth one day. In my eyes, he was so horrible that he corrupted everything in his path so I imagined myself corrupting everything in my path. Like father, like daughter. It got so intense that I even broke concentration enough to bring myself out of this fantasy because even with how I was when I did some inhumane and horrible things for him in the past, it was hard to see someone of neutral good alignment be so...corrupt. So evil. It was hard for me to see myself like that. I felt as if I was letting myself down for even imagening it but the moment I felt a tear trickle down my cheek, I put all thoughts of that behind me and quickly wiped it away before anyone could see.

As a woman that wanted to gain respect in her own way, alongside Bruce Wayne, I had to keep appearances of some sort and I refused to allow any emotions surface enough to show through my hard shell and demeanor. I refused to allow anyone see me as weak because despite knowing that I can handle myself, I didn't want to risk the chance of someone using any weaknesses against me and crying--well, that was a weakness. So nope. It was unacceptable and so I stopped myself before exploring any further feelings and bringing more tears. Thankfully, I was good at doing this. At hiding my emotions. It was a trait I had practiced for so long that it almost came like second nature to me now-a-days.

19. I'm mixed emotions about the audition post's direction and your understanding of Talia. However a lot of personality is present and you do a good job giving direction as to what you want from the RP and the direction you want to take the character.

I suggest you research more about Batman (via my RPC profile and my application on this forum) as well more research on Talia herself.

Overall, you have quite a bit of work cut out for you. I'd like to see some of your response to my feedback.



(Application note) Tomorrow night, Lily, Damian, and I will be having a skype conversation to talk about possible improvements and talk about story direction.

[Talia al Ghul]

I just did some edits on my application form.

The relationship section was reworked, the training and basics have some changes in there, I rewrote the personality section and changed the Equipment section too add weaponry and whatnot. I also added all Aliases that I know her to be known as.


So yeah, application form fixed based off of feedback. c:

[Talia al Ghul]

I also spoke to Damian OOC so that helped a lot.

[Elaine]

Good evening Lily.

I like the changes that you have been doing to your application, it shows that you are really trying to get the character going and I appreciate that. I did some research about Talia so I am going to ask you a few quick questions.

I feel that your interpretation of Talia might depend a bit too much on Batman to get anything going and in consequence I fear that you might get tired of the character sooner or later. Did you consider other angles for the character? She does seem to be a character that is very capable of creating her own schemes with the league, regardless of Batman or her differences with her father.

In the application you mention that your Talia has used the Lazarus pit, did you have any plans to use it as a plot device or play out any of the side effects from using it?

What does your Talia think of the no-kill rule of Batman? Does it create a conflict between them?

And that is all.

[Talia al Ghul]

Aug 8, 2015 16:03:59 GMT -5 Elaine said:

Good evening Lily.

I like the changes that you have been doing to your application, it shows that you are really trying to get the character going and I appreciate that. I did some research about Talia so I am going to ask you a few quick questions.

I feel that your interpretation of Talia might depend a bit too much on Batman to get anything going and in consequence I fear that you might get tired of the character sooner or later. Did you consider other angles for the character? She does seem to be a character that is very capable of creating her own schemes with the league, regardless of Batman or her differences with her father.

In the application you mention that your Talia has used the Lazarus pit, did you have any plans to use it as a plot device or play out any of the side effects from using it?

What does your Talia think of the no-kill rule of Batman? Does it create a conflict between them?

And that is all.

Good evening Elaine.

I'd like to thank you for replying to this and the praises you've given me. I really am dedicated to learning more about her as I go and to develop her so that I will enjoy her enough to be loyal to the group and do her justice.

To answer your question of if I considered other angles; at the time, not really. I can understand where you're conserned with me eventually loosing interest of Talia due to the way I seem to interprete her, but I can assure you I'm real dedicated to this character and even with her being one where her story is highly centered around Batman, I can keep my interest on her for a long time. You do bring up a good point with her being capable of being her own person who creates her own schemes and I have considered letting that idea play into the way I want to play her and so that I can show that Talia is a character that regardless of Batman or Ra's, she can be a threat to the enemy. So that is something I have considered and maybe you can count that as an alternative conseption or angle for the character that I have considered instead... hehe.

Yes, when Nyssa captured Talia, she constantly killed her and brought her back to life through the Lazarus pits. That had its toll on her, of course, and brought her closer to the brink of insanity every moment Nyssa killed and brought her back until eventually, Talia developed a longevety for the Lazarus pits and that is something that could prove useful in combat, like you say. I do have plans to use it as a plot device in combat but not sure how yet so I'm hoping to figure that out just on the spot, through actual roleplay if I happen to make it in the group. As far as if it had side effects or if I plan to let it have side effects; that is also something I plan to play out in roleplay if I make it in the group but for now, it's a strong maybe.

Talia, prior to meeting Batman, was around a man whom had no issues with eliminating thousands of people for his Humanitarian and Environmental believes and she had no doubts or issues in following his orders, despite that. I'm sure she's even killed people for the benefit of Ra's and of course it has played in her favor but when she met Batman, that all ended. This fact is a major part of her personality because Batman showed her and made her realize that her Humanitarian and Environmental believes, her search to make this world a better place and to help it become a Paradise, can all be found and achieved without the need to kill millions, or even thousands of people for that matter. Yes, prior to meeting Batman, she viewed it as a necessaty but that was mainly because of her father and because he micro-managed Talia's life, basically until Batman came along. But now that she sees a way around that, a way that you can make the world a Paradise and better place without the sacrifice of anyone's life, she is okay with it. In fact, it makes her happy because while many label her as a villain, in reality, she's just misunderstood. I play her, in fact, not as a villain as you can see so that's one example which you will hopefully get the chance to see played out if I happen to make it into this group.

Anyways, to answer your question, she is fine with the no-killing policy and agrees with Batman. It would make her a hypocrite not to agree with him, in fact, in my opinion. Heh.

Oh, and no, it does not create conflict there.

[Batman (Bruce Wayne)]

Aug 8, 2015 19:13:57 GMT -5 Talia al Ghul said:

Aug 8, 2015 16:03:59 GMT -5 Elaine said:

Good evening Lily.

I like the changes that you have been doing to your application, it shows that you are really trying to get the character going and I appreciate that. I did some research about Talia so I am going to ask you a few quick questions.

I feel that your interpretation of Talia might depend a bit too much on Batman to get anything going and in consequence I fear that you might get tired of the character sooner or later. Did you consider other angles for the character? She does seem to be a character that is very capable of creating her own schemes with the league, regardless of Batman or her differences with her father.

In the application you mention that your Talia has used the Lazarus pit, did you have any plans to use it as a plot device or play out any of the side effects from using it?

What does your Talia think of the no-kill rule of Batman? Does it create a conflict between them?

And that is all.

Good evening Elaine.

I'd like to thank you for replying to this and the praises you've given me. I really am dedicated to learning more about her as I go and to develop her so that I will enjoy her enough to be loyal to the group and do her justice.

To answer your question of if I considered other angles; at the time, not really. I can understand where you're conserned with me eventually loosing interest of Talia due to the way I seem to interprete her, but I can assure you I'm real dedicated to this character and even with her being one where her story is highly centered around Batman, I can keep my interest on her for a long time. You do bring up a good point with her being capable of being her own person who creates her own schemes and I have considered letting that idea play into the way I want to play her and so that I can show that Talia is a character that regardless of Batman or Ra's, she can be a threat to the enemy. So that is something I have considered and maybe you can count that as an alternative conseption or angle for the character that I have considered instead... hehe.

Yes, when Nyssa captured Talia, she constantly killed her and brought her back to life through the Lazarus pits. That had its toll on her, of course, and brought her closer to the brink of insanity every moment Nyssa killed and brought her back until eventually, Talia developed a longevety for the Lazarus pits and that is something that could prove useful in combat, like you say. I do have plans to use it as a plot device in combat but not sure how yet so I'm hoping to figure that out just on the spot, through actual roleplay if I happen to make it in the group. As far as if it had side effects or if I plan to let it have side effects; that is also something I plan to play out in roleplay if I make it in the group but for now, it's a strong maybe.

Talia, prior to meeting Batman, was around a man whom had no issues with eliminating thousands of people for his Humanitarian and Environmental believes and she had no doubts or issues in following his orders, despite that. I'm sure she's even killed people for the benefit of Ra's and of course it has played in her favor but when she met Batman, that all ended. This fact is a major part of her personality because Batman showed her and made her realize that her Humanitarian and Environmental believes, her search to make this world a better place and to help it become a Paradise, can all be found and achieved without the need to kill millions, or even thousands of people for that matter. Yes, prior to meeting Batman, she viewed it as a necessaty but that was mainly because of her father and because he micro-managed Talia's life, basically until Batman came along. But now that she sees a way around that, a way that you can make the world a Paradise and better place without the sacrifice of anyone's life, she is okay with it. In fact, it makes her happy because while many label her as a villain, in reality, she's just misunderstood. I play her, in fact, not as a villain as you can see so that's one example which you will hopefully get the chance to see played out if I happen to make it into this group.

Anyways, to answer your question, she is fine with the no-killing policy and agrees with Batman. It would make her a hypocrite not to agree with him, in fact, in my opinion. Heh.

Oh, and no, it does not create conflict there.

I wanted to debunk a common consensus about Talia's killing policy versus Batman.

I just got done looking into comic issues between 1960's - 1980's and in 3 comics within a 20-60 comic span there is Catwoman, Talia, Batman, and Robin teaming up against Ra's Al Ghul. Talia uses tranquilizers and states that she would rather "Die fighting for whats right than living with such evil that is her father."

[Batman (Bruce Wayne)]

Approved.